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10 Questions for Pat Ballard

11th June 2008

10 Questions for Pat Ballard

Pat BallardAs a young woman, romance writer Pat Ballard nearly died trying to starve her body into a socially-approved size. In her new book 10 Steps to Loving Your Body (No Matter What Size You Are) she provides the steps she created to heal the emotional damage of years of dieting and encourages readers to join her in celebrating diversity, positive body image and self-esteem and health at every size.

Now, the accomplished and acclaimed “Queen of Rubenesque Romances” takes the time to share with The-F-Word readers how she weathered the long and tortuous road of disordered eating to become a diet survivor — and how you can, too.

You are the proclaimed “Queen of Rubenesque Romances.” What makes your “rubenesque” romance novels different from the garden variety romance novel?

The main difference in my romance novels is that the heroine is, as I call them, Big Beautiful Heroines. I use caps on this title to bring attention to it. My heroines are either happy with themselves when they go into the book, or they are happy with themselves by the time the book is over. My heroines will never lose weight.

I use my romance novels to try to educate and encourage women in the fact that larger women can be just as sexy and worthy of love as the smaller sized women. That’s why I call them “Motivational romance novels.” They’re meant to motivate, encourage, uplift and make women proud to have their big beautiful bodies. But I don’t get “preachy.”

Romance novels are hardly the hotbed of hefty heroines. How do women respond to the idea of a plus-size protagonist who gets the guy without losing a pound?

I’ve gotten many, many emails from women, and several men, thanking me for writing novels with larger heroines. I think women who are ready to accept themselves really enjoy romance novels where the heroines are happy in their larger bodies and losing weight isn’t required.

On the other hand, I think there are still a lot of plus-size women who are living in denial, believing that their size is only temporary, so they would rather read romance novels with the smaller heroines and fantasize that it’s really them.

Pat Ballard

On your website, you write that you always said you wanted to write a book, but it wasn’t until your sisters got tired of hearing your procrastinations and gave you a notebook did you do it. Has the process of writing been healing for you? In what ways?

That first novella that I wrote didn’t address size issues at all. Only after I rewrote it several years later and “fattened” up the heroine did it become His Brother’s Child. I dedicated that book to my two sisters.

After I had been “diet-free” for several years, I was still trying to decide what kind of book I wanted to write, when one day, the proverbial light bulb went off. Write romance novels with Big Beautiful Heroines! What I try to have in each book is an “anti-fat” person who represents things and feelings that society around us projects. That is my “nasty” person, who, most of the time gets won over, but not always. So, in working through those negatives with my heroines, I do work through a lot of issues that we’re surrounded with. But I would say the most healing process that my writing has been for me is to finally get to follow my dream and, in the process, help others feel better about themselves.

You’ve stated before that you were a plump and happy child until the age of 11, the age when you began your first diet and later, an eating disorder. What happened? Why the transformation?

Pat BallardI was 11 years old when I saw my first height/weight chart in a women’s magazine. It was the first time in my life that I had ever felt like I wasn’t quite “good enough.” I needed to do something to become better than I was. Because I was a naturally plump child, it was hard for me to lose weight. I didn’t eat that much in the first place. I had a slow metabolism so I could stay plump on less fuel. As an example, my younger sister was tall and slim. My parents used to say about her, “She eats so much it makes her skinny to carry it.” And then they’d say about me, “Patricia doesn’t eat that much at all, she’s just fat like her mother’s side of the family.” (My parents never suggested that I diet. In fact, they were always against it.)

So for me to lose any weight, I had to be hungry all the time. As we all know, yo-yo dieting only slows down our metabolism more, so each time I would diet, then gain, then diet again it would be harder and harder for me to lose. Pretty soon, I was doing drastic things to lose weight. I did the “forced throwing up” thing after I felt like I’d eaten too much. Now, I never binged. “Eating too much” for me might be having dessert at Sunday’s dinner. I didn’t really like making myself throw up, though, so, basically, I would eat very little during the week, then on Friday night I’d take laxatives, and spend Saturdays “getting rid of all the bad stuff.”

This went on until I had totally destroyed my health. I was physically and mentally at the end. I was to the point of considering suicide. Thankfully, I had loving parents, who, when they found out how very sick I was, helped me regain my health. This was in my late teens. So, I became very aware of nutrition, vitamins, healthy eating, etc. But… I kept dieting. I just tried to eat a little more healthily while I starved myself! This went on for another 13 years.

How would you characterize your life now versus when you were dieting and disordered?

When I was dieting, everything I did was centered around food and/or thinking about food. What can I eat? What can’t I eat? Did that make me gain a pound? If I eat this will it make me gain a pound? I firmly believe that at least seventy percent of my mental energy was spent on thinking about my diet. And that is perfectly normal. When we’re constantly hungry, we constantly think of food. Period.

After I stopped dieting to lose weight, I was amazed at how much more mental time I had to think about my “real” life. My son, my husband, my goals, my job, etc. I rediscovered how exciting life really was when I had the energy to live it to its fullest!

Recovering from an eating disorder is certainly admirable and no easy task, but you’ve also become a very vocal proponent of fat acceptance. How did you make the transition from being an active dieter to an ardent anti-dieter?

The last diet I went on was Weight Watchers. This was supposed to be a very healthy diet. Yet, I was miserable the entire nine months that I was on the diet. I lost sixty pounds in those nine months. The entire time I was losing the weight, I kept asking myself key questions. Why am I doing this to myself just because some misguided society says I’m supposed to look a certain way? If the “average housewife” needs 2000 calories to perform her duties each day, why do I have to perform those same duties, plus have a full-time job, on half or less than half of those calories just to look a certain way? Am I willing to spend the rest of my life hungry just to be a certain size?

After I had answered all those questions with a determined “NO!” a slow rebellion started to grow in me. Even as a child, I hated double standards. And this just seemed like a double standard to me. I was being punished for inheriting a gene that made me hold on to more body fat than others. I remember the day that it finally dawned on me. My mind and my heart is the real me. The body is just the package that I’m wrapped in and the vehicle that carries me around.

The transaction was fairly easy after that. I determined to dress my package as well as I could on any given day, and to enjoy the day, just as I was. And I made up my mind that anyone who didn’t like my package could stay far, far away from me. I also made up my mind that I would never stand by quietly and listen to fat-bashing in my presence. I’ve had very few remarks made to me about my size, but if I heard any remark being made about someone else, or “fat people” in general that was said in a demeaning way, then I would let it be known how I felt about it. I tried to do it in a professional way, but I did it. And the more I did it, the easier it became.

Your new book describes the steps you took in healing the emotional damage of dieting and Pat Ballardanorexia and bulimia. What inspired you to write this book now?

When I stopped dieting, I wasn’t aware of anything, anywhere “out there,” that agreed with me. So I wrote what I titled “The 10 Commandments of Self-Love.” These steps were to help me remember on a daily basis what my goal was. Years later, after I wrote several of my romance novels, and started making public appearances, I would print out the “commandments” on decorative printer paper and use them as handouts. I was handing them out at the Southern Festival of Books, in 2004, and the representative of the publisher that I was with, at the time, was watching as people would stop and start reading the “commandments” and discussing them with a friend. Finally, he turned to me and said, “Pat, you know this needs to be a book.”

At that moment, again, the proverbial “light bulb” went off in my head, and I knew he was right. I’ve dedicated the 10 Steps To Loving Your Body (No Matter What Size You Are) to him.

Commandment number 9 in your maxi-manifesto is “Stop apologizing for your size.” How do women apologize for their size and why do we do this?

In any place where two or more women are together, if you listen for just a few minutes, you’re going to hear something like this. “I’ve gained 10 pounds! It took me 10 minutes just to get into these jeans!” Or, “I’ve got to get back on my diet. My hips are getting huge!” Or, “This dress makes me look so fat.” Or any other number of ways women put themselves down. I firmly believe when we do this, we’re apologizing for who we are. Whether it’s our size or just who we are in general. We’re saying to the world that we believe we’re “less than.”

I think there are two reasons women do this. One is to have the other person negate our statement, and in doing so pay us a compliment and tell us how good we look. In other words, I know a few women who put themselves down just to “fish” out a compliment. But mostly, I believe women put themselves down because they honestly have bought into the brainwashing that they really are “less than.”

There are those cynics who would read your 10 Steps to Loving your Body and think, “Huh, easier said than done.” What would you say to these readers?

Initially, they would be correct. Initially, it is easier said than done. After all, most of us have spent years being brainwashed by the media, T.V., newspapers, movies, doctors, family and ourselves into believing that we have to look a certain way. We have to be a certain size to be healthy, we have to be a certain size to even be accepted in some circles. So, yes, it’s easier said than done.

That’s why I say in my book that we have to stop the “stinking thinking” and relearn how to think about our bodies. We have to retrain our subconscious minds to think kind, positive, loving thoughts about the body that we’re in, right now. It won’t happen overnight for most. But it can and will happen if we stop the negative thoughts and start the positive ones.

In your book you write, “If we change the way we think about ourselves, then we change the way we feel about ourselves. The way we see ourselves. Our lives will start to be different because we will see them differently.” What is one small thing every woman can do today, at this moment, to begin the process of changing the way they view themselves and their bodies?

One “small’ thing that we can do right now, that can turn into one of the “biggest” things we’ve ever done is to stop saying and thinking negative things about ourselves. Every time you start to say or think some “put-down” about yourself, just say “NO!” Then replace the thought with a positive one. Do this until the negative thoughts stop. For instance, if you start to think, “I look so fat in this outfit.” Stop the thought in its tracks. Instead, say or think, “This outfit fits me really well.” Or “This color brings out the color of my eyes, or my hair.”

Right now, think of something good about you.

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  1. 1 On June 11th, 2008, CharlotteNo Gravatar said:

    Excellent interview. I’m not really into romance novels, but I may have to check out Pat’s.

  2. 2 On June 11th, 2008, idabeccaNo Gravatar said:

    What a coincidence! This woman had the EXACT same eating disorder pattern that I am currently struggling with. Right down to the laxatives on Friday and the purging on Saturday. I wonder, is this a common pattern?

  3. 3 On June 11th, 2008, LolaNo Gravatar said:

    Great interview. I wonder why it’s easier to accept our “packages” as we get older. I certainly would have preferred to be as accepting of my own body as I am now some twenty years ago…
    http://www.escrevalolaescreva.blogspot.com

  4. 4 On June 11th, 2008, ValNo Gravatar said:

    Exactly, Lola - I die a little bit inside when I see pictures of myself from 20 yrs (& about 45 lbs) ago, when I looked ABsolutely FABulous! - yet I clearly remember my desperation to lose 20 more lbs…Why was I so hard on myself?!?

  5. 5 On June 11th, 2008, MariNo Gravatar said:

    Because I was a naturally plump child, it was hard for me to lose weight. I didn’t eat that much in the first place. I had a slow metabolism so I could stay plump on less fuel. As an example, my younger sister was tall and slim. My parents used to say about her, “She eats so much it makes her skinny to carry it.” And then they’d say about me, “Patricia doesn’t eat that much at all, she’s just fat like her mother’s side of the family.”

    I can totally relate to this. I started my first diet when I was in the first grade.
    My first grade teacher thought I was too fat. I was a regular-sized baby and then
    a plump child. Now, I’m kind of the black sheep of the family.

    I have a younger brother: He’s the “golden” child. He’s the funny one, the witty
    one, the one with lots of friends, while I really only have 2, one moving down
    South, one that recently died, one that I just fell out with, etc. He’s the
    younger one, the thin one, etc. He’s extremely popular and I’m not.

    My parents always gave me a hard time about my weight, even up into college and
    my self-esteem has taken a HUGE beating for it. Now, I wonder if they had
    been more accepting of me if I would have accomplished more. I mean, yes, I
    graduated from college but I’m 29 years old and have nothing really to show
    for it.

    The fat hysteria in this country is such that people, particularly men, feel
    that they can either ignore or mistreat a fat woman. It’s easy to say that
    if we change how we feel about ourselves, that will mean something but when
    you can’t find a job or a boyfriend, then you begin to wonder if life is
    really worth living. Seriously.

  6. 6 On June 11th, 2008, nuckingfutzNo Gravatar said:

    I read something about this book a couple of weeks ago and automatically knew I had to have a copy. I haven’t ordered it yet, but I sent myself an email as a reminder and it’s right at the top of my inbox right now.

    Now I REALLY REALLY have to have a copy of this book!

  7. 7 On June 11th, 2008, RachelNo Gravatar said:

    Oh, yes, I meant to note that the book was just released this month. If you go to Amazon.com, you can read an excerpt of it and view the table of contents for free.

  8. 8 On June 11th, 2008, PiffleNo Gravatar said:

    Oh cool! I read romance novels for relaxation, I’ll have to find some of hers because I do get tired of all the skinny heroines. I hope she has some full-figured heroes too!

  9. 9 On June 11th, 2008, Pat BallardNo Gravatar said:

    Thanks to all of you for your wonderful comments.

    I would like to address what
    Mari wrote:
    “The fat hysteria in this country is such that people, particularly men, feel
    that they can either ignore or mistreat a fat woman. It’s easy to say that
    if we change how we feel about ourselves, that will mean something but when
    you can’t find a job or a boyfriend, then you begin to wonder if life is
    really worth living. Seriously.”

    Mari, I felt the same way for years. And I kept myself “starved down” until I got married. One of the wisest things my father ever said to me was, “Patricia, you’re going to stay on a diet until you find a man who likes slim women and marry him, then when you have a baby, you’re going to get fat, and your husband may not be happy with you.”

    That’s exactly what I did and that’s exactly what happened.

    So when I stopped dieting, I not only had society to fight, my own husband was giving me a hard time. But my mind was made up! I was finished with being hungry.

    So I told him that I understood how he felt and that he was free to go if he couldn’t live with a larger me. He stayed and we’ve been married for 34 years. He is now a wonderful advocate for accepting a person at the size they are. See, our men are as brainwashed as we are.

    But what I found when I changed the way I felt about myself and started building my own self-worth and gaining a healthy self-esteem, was that I started getting a lot more attention from men, even though I had on a wedding ring.

    Don’t underestimate men. Yes, there are some real cads “out there,” but there are a lot of men who love larger women and who are just waiting to find one who loves and enjoys herself.

  10. 10 On June 11th, 2008, GinnyNo Gravatar said:

    I didn’t see that this was answered or asked, so let me ask - are the heroes of the stories your typical, tall, muscular, marlboro men, or do they get a break from the stereotypes too? Are they (hopefully) diverse insofar as body types?

  11. 11 On June 12th, 2008, DeniselleNo Gravatar said:

    What a great interview! In-depth questions and thoughtful answers. If I were a writer, I’d like to be interviewed by you. And Pat Ballard rocks.

  12. 12 On June 12th, 2008, LindaNo Gravatar said:

    Congratulations, Pat, on an excellent interview and the launch of your new book. Anyone who thinks they don’t like romance novels should read yours. They are definitely a cut above the rest: thought-provoking and fun to read with strong women protagonists.

  13. 13 On June 13th, 2008, AmetatsuNo Gravatar said:

    I think it would actually be better not to expect the heroes to be full-figured too - some of them may be, but if all the main characters are fat, then it looks like “fat people can find love - but only with other fat people”, which isn’t what wants to be said.

  14. 14 On June 13th, 2008, Pat BallardNo Gravatar said:

    Ametatsu, I think you nailed it.

    I tell people that I’m not trying to “fatten up” the entire world. My message is that EVERYONE, no matter what size they are, should be allowed to exist and “be” who they are at their natural size.

    I don’t do any “skinny-bashing” in my books, either.

    Regarding my heroes, I have heroes from an “average-sized” kind of small hero in “Wanted: One Groom,” to the hero who weighs over 200 lbs in “His Brother’s Child.” And in my anthology of short stories, “Dangerous Curves Ahead,” one of the heroes weighs “around” 300 lbs. And I write him in as very sexy.

    I do this to show that men, too, are all different sizes of sexy!

    Pat

  15. 15 On June 14th, 2008, RachelNo Gravatar said:

    Pat - I love how your plus-size heroines are, actually, plus-size and not just kinda-fat.

    I’m not going to discount the role of weight in dating, because in my experiences, most guys tend to gravitate towards thinner women. But for me, I also have to wonder if the way I portrayed and presented myself also played a role in my non-existent dating life. I had terrible self-esteem and I thought anyone who expressed an interest was only out to mock me. I wonder if more fat women had more positive body-image, if their experiences wouldn’t be more positive, also.

  16. 16 On June 14th, 2008, Pat BallardNo Gravatar said:

    Rachel,
    I’m convinced that being at peace with who we are, being confident, and letting that shine through - which, if we have it, it WILL shine through - plays a major role in the “attraction” scene.

    I hesitate to say too much about myself, personally, because I don’t want it to sound like I’m “struck on myself,” because I’m not. But I have been amazed at the reaction I get from guys, after spending years telling myself that I’d never find a man who would love me if I was fat.

    But I will say this much. I’m usually the largest one in the group when I go out with my girlfriends. I’m usually the oldest in that same group. And I’m almost ALWAYS the one who gets flirted with. And I have many friends and family members who joke and give me a hard time about this on a regular basis.

    So, ladies, get that head in the air and feel good about that body you have and just see what happens.

    In fact, I’m going to lay down a dare. I dare any of you who doubt what I’m saying to try this for two weeks.

    Get up every day, dress in an outfit that you feel good in, fix your hair, put on a little makeup if you’re okay with that, then close your eyes and tell yourself that you’re at the size you want to be. Now, keep that thought in your mind all day. Put your head in the air, tell yourself that you’re perfect, just the way you are.

    See if you feel differently. See if the world treats you differently. See if you want to feel this way from now on.

    Pat

  17. 17 On July 2nd, 2008, forever_dreamerNo Gravatar said:

    i’d love to read one of her novels

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