Comments on: Kimkin’s diet founder heads to court http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:09:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: scattered marbles http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-131650 scattered marbles Sat, 02 May 2009 02:57:08 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-131650 <i>"Heidi Diaz is an obese ex-con, who has blown her thyroid and lost all of her hair from years of staving then binging, who berates people for being to “weak” to adhere to her 500 cal a day diet, all the while eating sugar cookies and fast food…."</i> I agree that it is kind of stupid to sell something that apparently doesn't work and that is so damaging but that doesn't surprise me, diets don't work and you will most likely gain it all back plus more. Honestly living as a fat person in this world I know more about diets and lifestyle changes than the average person does and I could put together a plan that would make people lose weight for a while, but it won't make me skinny anymore than WW will lol. Let me re-iterate I totally agree that what Diaz did was stupid, her actions were horrendous, and what she did was wrong and she should be punished fully for it and have to suffer the consequences for her actions, but why do we always attack like this. We don't know what she ate, I try to get the message out that you can't tell a persons health, lifestyle, or diet by their body size. This doesn't just apply for the people I like but for everyone, and honestly who cares if that is what she ate, their is nothing morally wrong with sugar cookies or fast food.. it is just food. I hate when I am in an argument with someone they always always start attacking my weight and appearance when that has NOTHING to do with why they are mad at me, and chances are they have a right to be mad I can be a brat sometimes, but then get mad about that and stop the personal attacks. So yes attack someone for their actions, for what they did wrong but if I want people to stop attacking judging and shaming me for my weight then I really shouldn't do that to anyone else either regardless. Just my thoughts lol. “Heidi Diaz is an obese ex-con, who has blown her thyroid and lost all of her hair from years of staving then binging, who berates people for being to “weak” to adhere to her 500 cal a day diet, all the while eating sugar cookies and fast food….”

I agree that it is kind of stupid to sell something that apparently doesn’t work and that is so damaging but that doesn’t surprise me, diets don’t work and you will most likely gain it all back plus more. Honestly living as a fat person in this world I know more about diets and lifestyle changes than the average person does and I could put together a plan that would make people lose weight for a while, but it won’t make me skinny anymore than WW will lol.

Let me re-iterate I totally agree that what Diaz did was stupid, her actions were horrendous, and what she did was wrong and she should be punished fully for it and have to suffer the consequences for her actions, but why do we always attack like this. We don’t know what she ate, I try to get the message out that you can’t tell a persons health, lifestyle, or diet by their body size. This doesn’t just apply for the people I like but for everyone, and honestly who cares if that is what she ate, their is nothing morally wrong with sugar cookies or fast food.. it is just food. I hate when I am in an argument with someone they always always start attacking my weight and appearance when that has NOTHING to do with why they are mad at me, and chances are they have a right to be mad I can be a brat sometimes, but then get mad about that and stop the personal attacks.

So yes attack someone for their actions, for what they did wrong but if I want people to stop attacking judging and shaming me for my weight then I really shouldn’t do that to anyone else either regardless.

Just my thoughts lol.

]]> By: Sherrie http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-31687 Sherrie Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:30:20 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-31687 Thanks for your article, I really enjoyed the way your wrote that, You might be interested in checking out the last KTLA segment in December which showed footage of her at the deposition for the lawsuit: <a href="http://pinchof.blogspot.com/2007/11/kimkins-diet-scam.html" rel="nofollow">Kimkins Diet Scam</a> There is a bit there where they flash her paypal account showing that she pulled 1.2 million in just one month (June, when the WW mag featured kimkins). And that was just paypal, who knows what else she received through the mail and direct deposits! Her assets have since been frozen which she is trying to remove, if you go the courts website and do a search for her name under civil cases you can find some pretty juicy documents :) Cheers :) Thanks for your article, I really enjoyed the way your wrote that, You might be interested in checking out the last KTLA segment in December which showed footage of her at the deposition for the lawsuit: Kimkins Diet Scam

There is a bit there where they flash her paypal account showing that she pulled 1.2 million in just one month (June, when the WW mag featured kimkins). And that was just paypal, who knows what else she received through the mail and direct deposits!

Her assets have since been frozen which she is trying to remove, if you go the courts website and do a search for her name under civil cases you can find some pretty juicy documents :)

Cheers :)

]]> By: Rachel http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23625 Rachel Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:49:45 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23625 Oh, she definitely crossed a line. She not only exploited the pocketbooks of these members, she also manipulated them emotionally. Even Dante doesn't have a level of hell appropriate enough for her. Oh, she definitely crossed a line. She not only exploited the pocketbooks of these members, she also manipulated them emotionally. Even Dante doesn’t have a level of hell appropriate enough for her.

]]> By: Hope http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23619 Hope Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:02:48 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23619 Rachel, I definitely hear your point about runaway capitalism. There are no end of scams, schemes, and cons in this economy. But if Diaz was berating her customers to stay on this insane diet as Barb related, then I think she crossed a line to abuse and anger. It's sad that she couldn't find help for her mental illness and took it out on the customers. Rachel, I definitely hear your point about runaway capitalism. There are no end of scams, schemes, and cons in this economy. But if Diaz was berating her customers to stay on this insane diet as Barb related, then I think she crossed a line to abuse and anger. It’s sad that she couldn’t find help for her mental illness and took it out on the customers.

]]> By: Rachel http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23544 Rachel Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:21:40 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23544 <i>Also, I really get the feeling that people would not be so militant about it if the woman who was shilling anorexia hadn’t turned out to be fat.</i> I agree. If she were thin, they would just naturally assume the diet plan worked. But she is the living breathing embodiment of exactly what a failure the plan is. People naturally feel duped and lied to. Also, from what I read, apparently she's been rather vicious in attacking anyone who questions the plan, like Barb notes above, calling them weak and telling them to go to WW if they don't have the willpower to sustain themselves with egg whites. Also, I really get the feeling that people would not be so militant about it if the woman who was shilling anorexia hadn’t turned out to be fat.

I agree. If she were thin, they would just naturally assume the diet plan worked. But she is the living breathing embodiment of exactly what a failure the plan is. People naturally feel duped and lied to. Also, from what I read, apparently she’s been rather vicious in attacking anyone who questions the plan, like Barb notes above, calling them weak and telling them to go to WW if they don’t have the willpower to sustain themselves with egg whites.

]]> By: Fillyjonk http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23533 Fillyjonk Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:00:50 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23533 I am ambivalent about the Kimkins controversy. Or rather, I'm ambivalent about the fact that it's being called a "scam." Yes, it's a scam, and it's ridiculously unhealthy and trades on people's self-hatred in order to rob them of their health and money. But the difference between that and other diet and meal plans are only differences of degree. The sense I get from reading various sites about Kimkins are "it's not a diet, it's a scam." Well, yes and no; it's a diet AND a scam. Just like any number of commercial plans I could name, it makes unrealistic claims, convinces users to engage in unhealthy behaviors by manipulating them emotionally, and provides initially desirable results balanced out by long-term health concerns. Basically, if she had just slapped "results not typical" on there, she could have safely bought cable ad space next to SlimFast and NutriSystem. Also, I really get the feeling that people would not be so militant about it if the woman who was shilling anorexia <i>hadn't</i> turned out to be fat. I am ambivalent about the Kimkins controversy. Or rather, I’m ambivalent about the fact that it’s being called a “scam.” Yes, it’s a scam, and it’s ridiculously unhealthy and trades on people’s self-hatred in order to rob them of their health and money. But the difference between that and other diet and meal plans are only differences of degree. The sense I get from reading various sites about Kimkins are “it’s not a diet, it’s a scam.” Well, yes and no; it’s a diet AND a scam. Just like any number of commercial plans I could name, it makes unrealistic claims, convinces users to engage in unhealthy behaviors by manipulating them emotionally, and provides initially desirable results balanced out by long-term health concerns. Basically, if she had just slapped “results not typical” on there, she could have safely bought cable ad space next to SlimFast and NutriSystem.

Also, I really get the feeling that people would not be so militant about it if the woman who was shilling anorexia hadn’t turned out to be fat.

]]> By: Miss Janey http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23531 Miss Janey Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:51:07 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23531 LAXATIVES??? Miss Janey's former good friends... such an unhealthy purge. First Miss J has heard of this news, tho. Shameful, dangerous, loathesome. It's a wonder people haven't died from this. *Shudder* LAXATIVES??? Miss Janey’s former good friends… such an unhealthy purge.

First Miss J has heard of this news, tho. Shameful, dangerous, loathesome. It’s a wonder people haven’t died from this.

*Shudder*

]]> By: BarbB http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23523 BarbB Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:26:11 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23523 Heidi Diaz is an obese ex-con, who has blown her thyroid and lost all of her hair from years of staving then binging, who berates people for being to "weak" to adhere to her 500 cal a day diet, all the while eating sugar cookies and fast food.... I am fat, I don't care if someone else is fat. But don't you dare tell me I'm a loser when we're in the same boat! I hope she goes to jail. There should be a special jail for someone who is trying to shame people into ending up just like her...chronically unhealthy. There are hundreds of survivors, read kimkinssurvivors.wordpress.com for more direct information. Heidi Diaz is an obese ex-con, who has blown her thyroid and lost all of her hair from years of staving then binging, who berates people for being to “weak” to adhere to her 500 cal a day diet, all the while eating sugar cookies and fast food…. I am fat, I don’t care if someone else is fat. But don’t you dare tell me I’m a loser when we’re in the same boat! I hope she goes to jail. There should be a special jail for someone who is trying to shame people into ending up just like her…chronically unhealthy. There are hundreds of survivors, read kimkinssurvivors.wordpress.com for more direct information.

]]> By: Rachel http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23511 Rachel Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:34:06 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23511 I don't know if it necessarily hatred or capitalism, Hope. I've read accounts on other blogs that allege her to be a career con woman with a history of mental illness. Supposedly, she's run into legal trouble in the past for other scams. I don’t know if it necessarily hatred or capitalism, Hope. I’ve read accounts on other blogs that allege her to be a career con woman with a history of mental illness. Supposedly, she’s run into legal trouble in the past for other scams.

]]> By: Hope http://the-f-word.org/blog/index.php/2007/10/23/kimkins-diet-founder-heads-to-court/comment-page-1/#comment-23508 Hope Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:20:00 +0000 http://the-f-word.org/blog/?p=207#comment-23508 This story is DARK. The amount of hatred "Kimmer" must have for herself and other women is epic. This story is DARK. The amount of hatred “Kimmer” must have for herself and other women is epic.

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